3. What points does Socrates make about the nature of love in his conversation with Agathon?…
In Plato’s Symposium each philosopher shared a different version of love when they gave their speech. First of all, Phaedrus expressed that love was the oldest of all gods and the one that does the most to promote virtue in people. Second, the strangest speech of the night came from Aristophanes; he expressed love in the form of a mythical story. Here is a quote from part of Aristophanes speech on his version of love, “We are twice the people we are now, and the gods were jealous, Zeus decided to cut us in half to reduce our power, and ever since we had been running all over the earth trying to rejoin with our other half. When we do, we cling to that other half with all our might, and we call this love.” (Aristophanes…
The Lysistrata of Aristophanes Aristophanes was a satirist who produced Lysistrata around 413 BC when the news of Athen 's warships had been destroyed near Sicily. For twenty-one years, while Athens was engaged in war, he relentlessly and wittliy attacked the war, the ideals of the war, the war party and the war spirit. This risked his acceptance and his Athenian citizenship. Lysistrata is probably the oldest comedy which has retained a place in modern theatre. It primarily deals with two themes, war and the power of sexuality.. Lysistrata (an invented name meaning, She Who Puts an End to War) has summoned the women of Athens to meet her at the foot of Acropolis. She puts before them the easy invitation that they must never lie again with their husbands until the war is ended. At first, they shudder and withdraw and refuse until, with the help of the women from Sparta and Thebes, they are impelled to agree. The women seize the Acropolis from which Athens is funding the war. After days of sexually depriving their men in order to bring peace to there communities. They defeat back in an attack from the old men who had remained in Athens while the younger men are on their crusade. When their husbands return from battle, the women reject sex and stand guard at Acropolis. The sex strike, portrayed in risqué episodes, finally pressure the men of Athens and Sparta to consent to a peace treaty. Ancient Greece in 431 BC was not a nation. It was a collection of rival city-states that were allies with each other or with leading military powers. Athens was a great naval power, while Sparta relied mainly on its army for superiority. In 431 BC, these alliances went to war against each other in a conflict called the Peleponnesian War. The war, which went on for 27 years, is named for the Peloponnesus, the peninsula on which Sparta is located. As the war began, Sparta and Athens each took advantage of their military strengths. Sparta ravaged Attica, the territory around…
The Ancient Greek word, 'Eros', translates into English as "Love". Love is generally viewed by society as an intense feeling of deep affection, however, love does not pertain to any one object or desire. Rather many various forms of love are believed to be in existence. Some of these more common forms entail romantic love, spiritual love, materialistic love, familial love, and sensual love, and many others. Within the Bernadete translation of the Plato's Symposium, a gathering is held between the characters, where the different philosophical dimensions of Eros are pondered and discussed by each character possessing their own opinions in regards.…
WWWWWWWWdfdhile each character is trying to adhere to the constitution of a eulogy (except for Socrates, who abandons this method when it is his turn to give a speech) we find that with every narrative, we are presented with a new speech-giving technique; Phaedrus begins his speech with a discussion of Love’s origins and ends it with a retelling of Love’s presence in the lives of historical figures, while Pausanias puts use to categorization—he splits love into two groups: Common Love and Celestial Love—to give his listeners a sort of clear-cut definition of love’s duality. In Eryximachus’ speech, we see for the first time a speaker who relates the nature of Love to some aspects of his own profession, which occurs again in Agathon’s…
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Both Boethius (the author) and plato agree that love strive for goodness. Plato gave us an example of what true love suppose to look alike in Alcibiades’ speech given in the symposium. Recall how Alcibiades demonstrate that Socrates was the greatest lover through his speech in which he praises Socrates for loving him and searching goodness for his soul. This was what lady philosophy was aiming at, that although all the wealth are gone, true friends will stay and the fact that they are striving for beauty by desiring the goodness of your soul, by loving you beyond what you have is true love and that is true fortune and that is also beauty. This is what Boethius (the prisoner) longs for in his last standard of the poem by stating that “How happy is the human race, if love, by which the heavens are ruled to rule men’s minds is set in place” (pg…
The symposium is one of the foundational documents of Western culture and arguably the most profound analysis and celebration of love in the history of philosophy. It is also the most lavishly literary of Plato’s dialogues – a genius prose performance in which the author, like playful maestro, shows off an entire repertoire of characters, ideas,…
References: Rathus, S. A., Nevid, J. S., and Fichner-Rathus, L. (2005). Human sexuality in a world of…
Another good Socrates valued was love. Some people say that Socrates was not a lover as he did not love his children. In ‘The Trial and Death of Socrates’ it is evident that he leaves his children behind and even asks the jurymen to test his own children when they grow up. It seems cruel to leave behind his children and even have them tested. To the majority, it seems that Socrates do not love. However, this is not true. Socrates has a different idea of love compared to the majority’s idea of love. Majority thinks that caring and being there for one another is love, but that kind of love dies out with death. According to Diotima in the ‘Symposium’ love is the appreciation of beauty. Socrates wanted to give this Diotima’s love to his children…
When examining the historical perspectives, one addresses sexual behaviors of past societies' and religion. Although in the past homosexual relationships were common based in Roman and Greek cultures, Christianity denounced those sexual associations and made their belief and intentions clear that this behavior were not to continue. The legal system became intertwined with the Christian belief that homosexuality was sinful and would punish inappropriate sex acts as criminal offenses (Rathus, Nevid, & Fichner-Rathus, 2005).…
Socrates is known as the lover of wisdom and the lover of beauty. His speech is a response to Agathon who comically states that love is beautiful and young, the opposite of Socrates. Socrates inquires is love considered to be a love of something or of nothing? He compares that to how a father is a father to his children and a brother is a brother to his siblings. Socrates expresses that love’s desire suggests that one does not own what he or she loves. Socrates further explains this by giving the example of a healthy man having the desire to remain healthy. One’s desire for things is for the future. The desire rests in the preservation and not the lack thereof. This statement of love being a love of something shows that there is a connection…
Throughout the course of the speech, Socrates describes love based upon an interaction with a woman named Diotima. After explaining to Socrates that good and bad and beautiful and ugly are more of a grey concept as opposed to a clear cut concept, she tells Socrates that love is a “great spirit” whose purpose is to fill the unknown space between humans and gods. Diotima then tells Socrates of the origin of Love, following Aphrodite’s birth, and how it relates to Love’s parents, the Penia, the embodiment of poverty, and Poros, the cunning and beautiful son of Metis. Additionally, she explains love as a cycle of continuous birth and death. She explains to Socrates that love is neither wise, nor ignorant which further illustrates her claim of love’s equivocalness.…
In this comedy, true love's path is paved with every single step, for it is difficult, confusing, and insane. Though love is a beautiful thing, it has its own difficulties and this is shown throughout the story. There are many conflicts and restrictions in the love triangle the characters are immersed in. One example is the fact that Egeus, Hermia’s father, disagrees with her love for Lysander and desires for her to be married to Demetrius. The two men love Hermia, but Hermia only loves Lysander, whom her father disapproves of. According to the Athenian law, her options are either death, to live as a nun, or to marry Demetrius as her father commands. Lysander states “Ay me! For ought that I could ever read, could ever hear by tale or history, the course of true love never did run smooth.” (1.1.…
Socrates says, “In a word, then, love is wanting to possess the good forever” (206B). Naturally, it would be my inclination to agree with this statement; however, love is much more complex than Socrates’ definition. Love is the desire to always be happy, and finding goodness is the key to happiness. Love brings the good out of our souls to guide our lives. We search for goodness in love, yet surrendering to love and desire (eros) is what brings out our goodness. The happiness that love provides encourages the individual to be his or her best self, which is how we ultimately live our lives around goodness. Plato’s Symposium teaches this catch-22: in searching for goodness in love, we discover the goodness within our own souls.…