But on the other hand this choice has to be made "on attaining manhood". If the individual decides to stay and live there then he is automatically participating in the law making process and he engages in the "political association" (The Politics). In conclusion he must completely obey any decision the state makes concerning him even if this decision involves his death. He continues and states that if he would escape, the city and its laws could be destroyed. The judicial system would have no more power because the people will stop trusting the system. Chaos would be the imminent outcome. Therefore we get to another minor premise that states that destroying Athens laws will hurt its citizens. Committing an act that could harm other people is against Socrates premise of living well. By harming other people you destroy your own character and conscience. According to Socrates life is not worth living with a ruined conscience the same as it is not worth living "with a body which is worn out and ruined in health"…
I believe that Socrates has made the absolute most just decision with everything he could have done. It still remains remarkable to me that he had turned down such an easy and pleasant life of exile to take on his execution that he is innocent for. Although it seems like such a hard thing to pass on, I know I would have done the exact same thing after some deep thought about how it would impact myself along with the rest of the community. I fully stand behind Socrates’ decision by staying in prison and taking on his…
He believes that these laws has given him birth, have educated him, raised him and have shared the wealth of Athens with him. Socrates thinks that the people of Athens are free to leave if they find the laws unjust, but if they want to stay then they must abide by the laws of Athens. The only thing that he points out are the people in power. He thinks that the people who are in power have changed the original laws for their own benefit. “been wronged, not by the Laws, but by men” (p 54). Socrates accepts death penalty because he wants the laws should be remain in place. Given opportunities such as exile or apology, he argues that if he escape from the prison, it will destroy the laws of the city and, eventually, the city because according to Socrates no city can survive without its laws being enforced. Therefore, Socrates steadfast by his believes of not violating any…
“The most intriguing people you will encounter in this life are the people who had insights about you, that you didn't know about yourself” (Alder). This quote can be used to show why the great Greek philosopher, Socrates is deemed as being so intriguing. During his time, Socrates was seen as a great threat because he tended to break free from the normal way of thinking and inevitably, people became afraid of him. Socrates was eventually put to death on account of “corrupting the youth” and being an “atheist,” which were false claims against him to cover up the fact that his accusers simply didn’t like him or his ways. When reading Plato’s Republic, Socrates is shown as being very intriguing because of: his humble ways, his Socratic method,…
In this essay I am evaluating if Socrates death harmed the citizens of Athens more then it did Socrates himself. Socrates has two reasons why Athens will be more harmed then him by his death. When Socrates died he did just that, he left the earth and was no longer there, after this moment Socrates was no longer harmed by his own death, the people of Athens however went on to suffer the repercussions for years to come. It was Athens in the end that suffered, Socrates was at peace.…
Even though Socrates is proven guilty he has no regrets. He believes he did nothing wrong and is happy to share his knowledge with people. Socrates says, “is not to avoid death but to avoid unrighteousness.”(168-169) In this he is saying he is not upset about dying and he did the right in life. Again he shows this is true when he says, “I would rather die having spoken after my manner, than speak in your manner of life.”(163) He’s saying again he did the right thing and rather die than not have shared his knowledge and be a wise man. Socrates makes it clear he did the right thing in life, at least what he thinks the right thing is. He wants to help people in his life and succeeded in doing so, so he is not afraid of death. He is smart and wise and wants to keep teaching his knowledge. He states this when he says “ You will not easily find another like me, and therefore I advise you to spare me.”(110-111) Socrates makes it clear teaching his believes was obviously not a crime and has no regrets of doing so.…
Socrates viewpoint about remaining in jail and being executed is all based on the idea that if he breaks out of jail he would be unjust, and just in general goes against his beliefs. “ Socrates wants to abide by the law because he respected the city as well as the laws that governed Athens. Living by such laws allowed Socrates to lead what he perceived to be the just life, therefore the good life. For Socrates “it is never right to commit injustice or return injustice to defend one self against injury by retaliation. “ “ Then we ought not to retaliate or render evil for evil to anyone, whatever evil we may have suffered from him.” If Socrates would to escape, then it would be breaking the law. Even if he felt that the jury was wrong for convicting him, his intention is not to return a wrong for another wrong. Socrates can’t escape if he thinks that doing that action is unjust, he has personal principles which is that just action is the right action and going against that principle would be unjust. To do an unjust action ruins one soul and life isn’t worth living with a ruined soul. Socrates believed that there was no point in living, if his life was not moral and just. To him quality of his life is more important than the quantity of it. In addition, Athens protects him with right and laws and he feels that in return he has to obey them by being just.…
The question of Socrates’ criminality is not straightforward. The truth or falsity of the accusations is not certain. Also, the perspective from which the question is viewed changes its answer. The only certainty is that the philosopher, Socrates, was found guilty and sentenced to death by a jury of his peers for corrupting the youth and a disbelief in the Athenian’s Gods. If the Apology’s origins are to be believed, as in if Plato wrote a true description of events, then it can be said that Socrates does not believe himself to be guilty of these crimes.…
Since Athenians were so close minded, they out casted anyone that didn't conform to their traditions. They should have been open to anything and not simply dislike a person or a situation because it didn’t follow their ideals. Socrates’ trial eventually led to his death and this illustrates that everyone has limitations. We can’t reject what we were taught or certain laws in society just because we don’t agree. Society functions because we work together and change together not because we do what we want. Furthermore, when Socrates was on trial he made a point to say that the democracy was poison to the people. Yet when his friend Crito offers him an escape from his death he denies the offer because he believes it is unjust to not face his execution. There are many theories behind why Socrates said no since he didn’t support the democracy; I believe it is because he had an open mind. (Crito,76-77). Yes, him being open-minded lead to his death; however, it indicates that he understood limitations of the law and respected societies perspectives.…
After being convicted of his ‘crimes’, he is given an opportunity from his friends to escape, but he refuses. The main reason is that the people will know that they convicted an innocent man because they were annoyed with Socrates. When he is dead he will go to the underworld and be able to talk to far more interesting people. Also the people of Athens would only get a break from Socrates. When they die he’ll be there to greet them, and they can’t run away from him where they’re…
“The Death of Socrates” was painted by a French painter . His name was Jacques Louis David. The painting represents the scene of the death of Greek philosopher Socrates. He was condemned to die by drinking hemlock for the expression of his ideas against those of Athens' and corrupting the minds of the youth. The painting also depicts both Plato and Crito, with the former sitting at the edge of the bed and the latter clutching the knee of Socrates. Socrates had the choice to go into exile and , hence, give up his philosophic vocation or be sentenced to death by drinking hemlock. Socrates chose death. In this painting, someone hands a confident Socrates the goblet of hemlock. Socrates' hand pointing to the heavens indicating his defiance of the gods and fearless attitude to his death.…
Read selections from The Phaedo, available in this week’s Electronic Reserve Readings. Focus on paragraphs 107 to 115a (pp. 437–444).…
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Question 2) In Book I of Republic, Thrasymachos’s states that unjust people are stronger and more powerful than just people. Thrasymachos believes that being just is not virtuous nor wise but that men act just only because they afraid of having injustices happening to them so they obey. Those who have power and control are those people who act unjust-they make laws and rules that benefit themselves, not the rest of the people. Socrates proves Thrasymachos otherwise by arguing that being just is virtuous, wise and profitable and being unjust does not make people stronger nor more powerful. Those in power or rulers make laws that are just for themselves but Thrasymachos agrees that sometimes rulers make mistakes and make laws that are unjust to them, therefore, making them just or advantageous for the people they rule. Therefore, unjust people would not be more powerful in this case. Additionally, Socrates goes on to reason with Thrasymachos that the individual in power commands advantages for his or her subject rather than their own personal advantage. Socrates makes a comparison to a doctor and a patient as well as a pilot and a sailor, where the doctor and pilot are commanding advantages for their subjects, the patient and sailor respectively. Thrasymachos argues that a just man will pay taxes on his estate and an unjust man will pay less taxes on the same size property, etc. Therefore, being unjust serves a greater purpose than being just. Socrates goes on to argue that no one chooses willingly to rule but they do so in exchange for wages because the ruler does not expect to make other gains in simply doing what is advantageous for the people being ruled. Work performed by people in power and in control is considered an art form that without being rewarded with wages solely serves that subject, or weaker person, receiving the benefit of the art. For example, a doctor practices the art of making others healthy. There are no advantages the doctor gains in…
In the trial of Socrates I am going to show that the defendant is not guilty on the first charge of corrupting the youth. My justifications for this vote are as follows. Socrates didn't corrupt the youth, he just shared his ideas with them and they in turn chose the path to take these ideas.…