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Who Is Socrates
“He knows nothing, and thinks that he knows. I either know nor think that I know” (Pg. 31). Socrates was told by the god of Delphi that there was no man wiser. Socrates wondered what this meant so he set out to find the answer by going around to those who had the reputation of being very wise. He had come to the same conclusion for all of these men that all though they did know a great deal more that Socrates was ignorant to they all fell into the same mistake when they all thought that because they knew all kinds of things with great important it overshadowed their wisdom and blocked the potential for them to expand their knowledge. It was this investigation from Socrates that lead to him having a great number of enemies.
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33). While the questioning of meletus was under way, Socrates had asked who of the people in Athens the improvers of youth were since they have taken a good amount of time to discover who the corrupter was. Meletus had responded that the laws, the judges of the court, the audience, the senators, and the members of the citizen’s assembly, essentially every Athenian improves and elevates the youth. If what Meletus says is true then Socrates is not a corrupter of youth but in fact one who improves them although, Meletus still states that he is the only individual in Athens that intentionally corrupts the youth. Meletus admits to the fact that someone who is good does good by their neighbors and those who are bad do their neighbors evil. If this were true, since Socrates is intentionally corrupting the youth then he “is very likely to be harmed by [them]” (Pg.34). Meletus lied about the accusation against Socrates that he in fact is a corrupter since he does not corrupt the youth or he does so unintentionally and is not being harmed by them. In other words, Socrates’s teachings to the youth about not acknowledging the same gods that the states acknowledge but rather other new divinities are the lessons in which the youth are corrupted. Which leads into the second charge brought up against

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