3. What points does Socrates make about the nature of love in his conversation with Agathon?…
In Plato’s Symposium each philosopher shared a different version of love when they gave their speech. First of all, Phaedrus expressed that love was the oldest of all gods and the one that does the most to promote virtue in people. Second, the strangest speech of the night came from Aristophanes; he expressed love in the form of a mythical story. Here is a quote from part of Aristophanes speech on his version of love, “We are twice the people we are now, and the gods were jealous, Zeus decided to cut us in half to reduce our power, and ever since we had been running all over the earth trying to rejoin with our other half. When we do, we cling to that other half with all our might, and we call this love.” (Aristophanes…
He begins by complimenting the previous speaker, Pausanias, on his explanation of the two kinds of Love, Common and Celestial, and describes how they are related in the human body. He claims that it is good to praise the healthy body and bad to do the same with the unhealthy one; that a doctor should not even make notice to it.…
Companionship and love, although both present in Sappho and the Epic of Gilgamesh, had differing views encased in opposite ends of the spectrum demonstrations of love. The materialism and emotions revealed within the texts, illuminates the view of rationality and irrationality of love. If we consider how the gods attributed to this view, the problems of accuracy in the portrayal of love can be resolved. The Epic of Gilgamesh illuminates how cold and rigid of an incorrect view Ishtar has on love in contrast to Sappho's more accurate view. This can be seen through how love was received and demonstrated within the text itself.…
The collection of texts presented in this essay depicts an underlying theme of love. The texts have been examined and explored in order to note the similarities or differences in various categories. To compare two texts by the length of their stanza would be to diminish the value of its words; indeed a comparison of texts must come from the connotation.…
WWWWWWWWdfdhile each character is trying to adhere to the constitution of a eulogy (except for Socrates, who abandons this method when it is his turn to give a speech) we find that with every narrative, we are presented with a new speech-giving technique; Phaedrus begins his speech with a discussion of Love’s origins and ends it with a retelling of Love’s presence in the lives of historical figures, while Pausanias puts use to categorization—he splits love into two groups: Common Love and Celestial Love—to give his listeners a sort of clear-cut definition of love’s duality. In Eryximachus’ speech, we see for the first time a speaker who relates the nature of Love to some aspects of his own profession, which occurs again in Agathon’s…
Both Boethius (the author) and plato agree that love strive for goodness. Plato gave us an example of what true love suppose to look alike in Alcibiades’ speech given in the symposium. Recall how Alcibiades demonstrate that Socrates was the greatest lover through his speech in which he praises Socrates for loving him and searching goodness for his soul. This was what lady philosophy was aiming at, that although all the wealth are gone, true friends will stay and the fact that they are striving for beauty by desiring the goodness of your soul, by loving you beyond what you have is true love and that is true fortune and that is also beauty. This is what Boethius (the prisoner) longs for in his last standard of the poem by stating that “How happy is the human race, if love, by which the heavens are ruled to rule men’s minds is set in place” (pg…
The symposium is one of the foundational documents of Western culture and arguably the most profound analysis and celebration of love in the history of philosophy. It is also the most lavishly literary of Plato’s dialogues – a genius prose performance in which the author, like playful maestro, shows off an entire repertoire of characters, ideas,…
Central Idea: Much of our problem in the modern world is a problem of love in all its aspects - Eros, Libido, Agape, Philia.…
Socrates is known as the lover of wisdom and the lover of beauty. His speech is a response to Agathon who comically states that love is beautiful and young, the opposite of Socrates. Socrates inquires is love considered to be a love of something or of nothing? He compares that to how a father is a father to his children and a brother is a brother to his siblings. Socrates expresses that love’s desire suggests that one does not own what he or she loves. Socrates further explains this by giving the example of a healthy man having the desire to remain healthy. One’s desire for things is for the future. The desire rests in the preservation and not the lack thereof. This statement of love being a love of something shows that there is a connection…
Throughout the course of the speech, Socrates describes love based upon an interaction with a woman named Diotima. After explaining to Socrates that good and bad and beautiful and ugly are more of a grey concept as opposed to a clear cut concept, she tells Socrates that love is a “great spirit” whose purpose is to fill the unknown space between humans and gods. Diotima then tells Socrates of the origin of Love, following Aphrodite’s birth, and how it relates to Love’s parents, the Penia, the embodiment of poverty, and Poros, the cunning and beautiful son of Metis. Additionally, she explains love as a cycle of continuous birth and death. She explains to Socrates that love is neither wise, nor ignorant which further illustrates her claim of love’s equivocalness.…
He boasts that he is more capable of developing a better speech along the same basic theme with the addition of his own concepts. In his second speech Socrates proposes to tell the truth about love. Socrates still agrees that one should choose the non-lover over the lover; however he proceeds to raise his own valid points that refute Lysias' opinion. Socrates first distinguishes the differences between the lover and the non-lover. He goes on to say that in every human there are two principles of a better and a worse, also known as reason and desire. These principles lead up to the overall master power of love. Socrates then discusses the conflict of the pursuit to find pleasure versus the good. Nevertheless, he retreats back to the idea that love is a god or divine presence that therefore cannot be evil. Socrates claims that love is the gift of the gods, a heaven-sent form of madness or possession. This idea of madness is one of the prevailing and central themes that Socrates focuses on in his speech. He claims that this madness will bring the greatest blessings and is one of the most necessary aspects of life. Socrates speaks of how madness leads to love and if you choose the lover over the non-lover then you will be more at a disadvantage. He goes so far as to divide his madness into four different kinds. First there is…
The Symposium by Plato revolves around the subject matter of love. Plato writes about seven different views on love. All of the different views come from the speakers that attended the symposium in honor of Agathon. Eryximachus suggests that each guest should make a speech in admiration of the g-d of Love. The most irrational view on love is provided by Aristophanes' speech.…
This discussion focuses on all the different forms of love, which is presented in the classical Greek typology. Using the Greek terms:…
Love is a good topic to talk about. Today, if people were to sit down and talk about it, it would most likely consist of talking about how to treat the other person you love, whether it is romantically or loving your friends and family. However, in the case of the Symposium, the men in this conversation took the topic more in depth than I could have imagined. I believe that Aristophanes had a very interesting opinion on love. I feel like although his argument is quite odd, it does bring up a good point that does connect to an expression that people use today.…