there are two main characters of the Cave Socrates and Glaucon. Socrates stood out more and the author Plato. Socrates wises man in Athens and he’s kind of a jerk. The representation of the Socrates‚ human nature and the enlighten figure of language. Plato trying to tell the audience that there is darkness and light. Plato dialog forms how you get out of the cave into enlightened. Socrates and Glaucon are trapped into a situation. The decisions‚ options Socrates make are fade towards themselves. By the
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Glaucon vs. Socrates In Book Two of The Republic‚ Glaucon tests Socrates view of justice. Socrates believes that “injustice is never more profitable than justice” (31). With this‚ he describes how the good life is determined by whether you are just or unjust. Socrates explains how justice is observed through the genuine acts of human character; justice is evaluated by how morally right one is. Glaucon however challenges this idea‚ as he wishes to be shown why being just is desirable. He trusts
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the Ring of Gyges‚ Glaucon and Socrates argue over what justice really is. They talk about the classes of goods. The first class being some things are good no matter the consequences‚ such as joy (The Ring of Gyges‚ Plato). The second class would be things like health and knowledge‚ things that are desirable for their results‚ and the third class are things like a job‚ or exercise‚ things that are only good for their consequences (The Ring of Gyges‚ Plato). Glaucon places justice in the second class
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The discussion between Socrates and Glaucon in the story of the ring of Gyges is a response to a sophist named Thrasymachus’ idea of Justice in book one of The Republic. He made three central claims about justice: Justice is nothing but the advantage of the stronger. Justice is obedience to laws. Justice is nothing but the advantage of another. Thrasymachus’ “won” this argument against Socrates; however‚ Glaucon was not satisfied with these claims. The main theory of Glaucon in the ring of Gyges is
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Socrates claimed that morality enables us to prosper and that it is simply not a lesser evil. On the other hand‚ Glaucon claims that it is in fact a lesser evil and even goes to say that justice restricts immoral people’s liberties. Socrates understood that by principle‚ morality and virtuousness were in direct relation to the happiness of a person. Consequentially‚ a person who had no morals or virtue had no chance in attaining true happiness. In Glaucon’s argument he states that there are three
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Socrates begins this dialogue by hesitating to explain his thoughts about what the good is considered to be. After much persistent pleading by Glaucon‚ Socrates agrees to discuss the topic‚ however on a smaller level. He promises to discuss the offspring of the good as he calls it and save the father of the good for another time. Glaucon accepts this proposal and anxiously waits for Socrates to begin. Socrates begins his dialogue with a statement which he has spoken about before‚ “that many beautiful
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Previously‚ Socrates‚ Glaucon‚ and Adeimantus had discussed certain teachings and poetry that Socrates believed should be shown in his ideal city. In his ideal city Socrates defines several characteristics and exemptions of the guardians and continues in this next section. Socrates states that the rulers or guardians should be the only ones allowed to lie‚ but only if the lie is to benefit the city. Socrates concerns himself with those individuals who do not stick to one art or activity‚ so if guardians
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Question 1 In the Republic‚ Plato and Glaucon have a difference of opinion when it comes to the idea of justice. Glaucon believes that justice is something we keep up for the sake of others‚ unlike Plato who believes that justice is a benefit that improves one’s own life as well as everyone around them. Justice is simply a social contract theory that would have no basis if not for the existence of rules or the moral conscience of humans. If the concept of justice didn’t exist‚ people would be out stealing
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debate by claiming he himself lives the very definition of justice‚ by bearing earned wealth and consistently living a virtuous life for the eyes of the Gods. He argues that he believes the most just person lives a life free of lies‚ follows every law and is always to return what he owes. Countering Cephalus’s claim‚ Socrates paints the image in everyone’s mind of two neighbors‚ one of whom has borrowed a weapon that can originate harm. Socrates provides the situation of the second neighbor returning
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Polemarchus and Thrasymachus definition of justice and Socrates objection to those definitions-point by point. - To Cephalic the definition of justice is being honest‚ that lying would be consider being injustice. Socrates respond to his definition of Justice saying that if you owe a madman his weapon in some sense if it belongs to him legally‚ and yet this would be an unjust act‚ since you know that he could harm someone with the weapon. So this can’t be justice‚ justice would be nothing more than honoring
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