Polemarchus‚ Socrates and his colleague‚ Thrasymachus share their wisdom on the definition of justice. The scene is set for a mighty debate that will be discussed for centuries after this event. Thrasymachus‚ unsatisfied with Socrates’s rebuttal to Polemarchus’s definition of justice‚ pounces at the opportunity to have the upper hand on the great philosopher‚ and prove himself the wiser. Socrates‚ who just bested Cephalus and Polemarchus decides to entertain Thrasymachus and hear his interpretation of justice
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Thrasymachus argues for the view that justice is the advantage of the powerful – that it is “simply the interest of the stronger” (Plato’s The Republic‚ translated by Richard W. Sterling and William C. Scott‚ page 35). Laws‚ he says‚ are specifically “designed to serve the interests of the ruling class” (36). Of course‚ the ruling class is the strongest class‚ so it follows that the laws serve the advantage of the strong. The citizens under the ruling class serve “interests [of their strong unjust
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intended for the weaker members of a society. According to Thrasymachus‚ the just man leads a good life because he is fearful of the repercussions of his actions and the unjust man is not fearful of these repercussions because he is stronger and more intelligent than the average citizen. These traits will allow him to avoid social comeback for his unjust actions. Furthermore‚ the more unjust a man is the stronger he becomes. Thrasymachus finally states that since the unjust man is living outside
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attempts to answer these questions in the Republic. In book I Thrasymachus‚ a rival of Socrates makes the claim that justice is nothing but the advantage of the stronger. It does not pay to be just because those who behave unjustly naturally gain power and become the rulers of society. Justice is what unjust rulers say is right through the rules that they make. It is injustice that is the source of happiness#. Plato sets out to disprove Thrasymachus’ argument and provide an accurate definition of justice
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Philosophy 1) Cephalu’s‚ Polemarchus and Thrasymachus definition of justice and Socrates objection to those definitions-point by point. - To Cephalic the definition of justice is being honest‚ that lying would be considered being unjust. Socrates responds to his definition of Justice by saying that if you owe a madman his weapon in some sense if it belongs to him legally‚ and yet this would be an unjust act‚ since you know that he could harm someone with the weapon. So this can’t be justice‚ justice
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Claims and Arguments A. Statement- or claim is an assertion that something is or is not the case; it is either true or B. Argument- an argument is a group of statements‚ one of which is supposed to be supported by the rest. In an argument the supporting statements are known as premises; the statement being supported is known as a conclusion. C. Indicator Words- are terms that often appear in arguments and signal that a premise or conclusion may be nearby. Arguments Good and Bad
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and they do not do anything good. He explains this to Montag by stating three claims that all support his opinion. These claims are: the need for intelligence was cut down when technology had started to advance; books do not make everybody happy‚ they offend at least somebody which makes controversy throughout the globe; and books make people worry about things that they should not being worrying about. The first claim that Beatty had made was that knowledge or need for intelligence was cut down
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In this paper we will show that Glaucon and Thrasymachus’ positions on justice are entirely different. We argue that Thrasymachus despite his slippage and confusion between a traditional and immoralist definition of justice‚ is really intending to illustrate a political system ruled by a rational-minded and exploitative tyrant. On the other hand Glaucon clearly presents justice as a necessary evil originating out of a social contract constructed by the weak of society. He then challenges Socrates
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the most complex foundations of our society is justice‚ which has always been overlooked without much thought. According to Thrasymachus‚ in Plato’s The Republic‚ who breaks irately into the discussion‚ proclaims that he has a superior meaning of justice to offer. Justice‚ he says‚ is simply the point of interest of the stronger. In spite of the fact that Thrasymachus claims that this is his definition‚ it is not so much implied as a meaning of justice as much as it is a delegitimization of justice
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The Plausibility of Thrasymachus’ Argument on Justice It is my objective in this paper‚ to illustrate the claims made by Thrasymachus‚ in The Republic‚ as argument to Socrates’ views on what justice is. I will then evaluate the claims‚ "justice is nothing other than the advantage of the stronger" (338c)‚ and that "a just man always gets less than an unjust one" (343d)‚ in an effort to see how Thrasymachus uses these statements to provoke an argument. Despite the contradictory nature of these statements
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