morality because it plays a crucial role in formulating ethical theories. As Socrates states‚ "we are discussing no small matter‚ but how we ought to live." In his writings he has describes two contrasting views of the important issue that is ultimately asking the question‚ why be moral? Plato and Thrasymachus represent the different and some-what opposing ideas on this topic of morality and self interest. Thrasymachus believes that the right thing to do is act unjustly or unmorally because one
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Thrasymachus‚ a famous Sophist philosopher‚ shared his theory that injustice has greater advantages than justice. He says that injustice is “superior to justice in strength and freedom and autocratic power.” This is because he believes that a just man always has the worst of it. Thrasymachus defines “just” as those who serve the interest of the stronger at the cost of the subject who obeys‚ and “injustice” as asserting authority over those innocents so that they may please their master‚ instead of
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Tharasymachus’ has been listening to the discussion and has been eagerly waiting to interupt‚ he is convinced that he alone has the answer of what justice is. He states that justice "is in the interest of the stronger party" and its a virtue only intended for the weaker members of a society. According to Thrasymachus‚ the just man leads a good life because he is fearful of the repercussions of his actions and the unjust man is not fearful of these repercussions because he is stronger and more intelligent
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Looking up in the Merriam Webster dictionary justice is defined as "the maintenance or administration of what is just especially by the impartial adjustment of conflicting claims or the assignment of merited rewards or punishments". The fact that the word itself is being used for its definition explains how ambiguous the concept of justice can get. It is because of the very same reason that some time between the years of 470 to 399 BC a very well-known argument took place in Piraeus. The mentioned
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Vincenzo Philosophy 110 B February 17‚ 2016 1. The Socratic character of Grandpa Vanderhof has similar traits as to Socrates in book 1 of The Republic. In book 1 Socrates questions characters and talks to them about happiness and life. His question is “ Does he mean that justice is doing good to friends and harm to enemies”. Socrates question to Polemarchus‚ they argue about what justice is. So tying it to the movie with how Grandpa Vanderhof talks about life lessons with other characters in the film
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show that Glaucon and Thrasymachus’ positions on justice are entirely different. We argue that Thrasymachus despite his slippage and confusion between a traditional and immoralist definition of justice‚ is really intending to illustrate a political system ruled by a rational-minded and exploitative tyrant. On the other hand Glaucon clearly presents justice as a necessary evil originating out of a social contract constructed by the weak of society. He then challenges Socrates to prove to him that
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greater good of the state. On the other hand‚ in Plato’s Republic Thrasymachus believed that justice was best defined as that which is done to benefit the stronger‚ meaning that in a democracy democratic laws are just and in tyranny‚ tyrannical laws are just‚ and this applies to all other forms of government. Both Thrasymachus and Machiavelli have overlapping points in them views of justice and virtu. In Thrasymachus’s definition of justice and Machiavelli’s definition of virtu some of the concepts that
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Punishment versus Rehabilitation Paper Katie Collett AJS502 April 16‚ 2012 University of Phoenix Punishment versus Rehabilitation Paper Punishment is an authoritative imposition that is done to a person that results in their behavior that was deemed wrong by a group or an individual person. Punishment can come in many different forms for example the person that committed a crime could get the punishment as in jail time‚ probation‚ or even witness protection. Punishment to some people could
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In the book‚ Plato Republic‚ Socrates had a discussion with Thrasymachus and Glaucon about justice and unjustice. In this essay‚ I shall argue that Plato’s solution of the temptation of the ring is successful in a few ways. I will describe Thrasymachus and Glaucon’s idea about justice‚ and how Socrates discuss with them in terms of the justice of the city‚ justice of individual soul‚ his theory of forms and the importance of the knowledge of the good‚ and the sun analogy and the allegory of the cave
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people. Socrates proves Thrasymachos otherwise by arguing that being just is virtuous‚ wise and profitable and being unjust does not make people stronger nor more powerful. Those in power or rulers make laws that are just for themselves but Thrasymachos agrees that sometimes rulers make mistakes and make laws that are unjust to them‚ therefore‚ making them just or advantageous for the people they rule. Therefore‚ unjust people would not be more powerful in this case. Additionally‚ Socrates goes on
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