Preview

Socrates

Good Essays
Open Document
Open Document
691 Words
Grammar
Grammar
Plagiarism
Plagiarism
Writing
Writing
Score
Score
Socrates
The Euthyphro dialogue is essentially a conversation between Socrates and Euthyphro each of who attempt to argue their point of justification about why they are in court or should not be there, which in turn a question develops about the gods and holiness. Euthyphro has a surprise encounter beside the porch of the king responsible for overseeing religious law. Euthyphro asks Socrates why he is there. Socrates states he has being persecuted by Meletus for corrupting the youth with his ideals about predictions of the future. Socrates in turn asks Euthyphro about his reason for being in court. He replies stating that he is bringing charges against his father for the murder of one of the family’s day laborers. Socrates shocked that Euthyphro is bringing charges against his own father, probes deeper into the nature of the crime. He states that surly his father is a man of advanced wisdom and it must have been a murder of a relative. Euthyphro responds with a brief account of the crime and how is occurred. Euthyphro tells Socrates that the day laborer was drunk and butchered a servant. The father bound the day laborer’s hands and feet and threw him in a ditch while he fetched religious authority on how to handle the matter. While in a ditch the man died from hunger and exposure.
He further states that his family is angry because he is prosecuting his father on behalf of a murderer and they believe it is unholy for a son to prosecute his own father. Socrates suggests that Euthyphro must be an expert on holiness if he is willing to proceed with the prosecution. Euthyphro agrees. Socrates then requests that Euthyphro teach him what holiness is, as it may help him in his own trial, thus the dialogue about what holiness is begins. They briefly joke about their cases, with Socrates saying that if Meletus agreed that Euthyphro is an expert surely he is too and would drop his case and pursue his teacher for corrupting the elderly. Socrates then asks Euthyphro to teach

You May Also Find These Documents Helpful

  • Satisfactory Essays

    This reading is so confusing, I read it three times and still have some confusion about the Socrates statements. Basically, it is a conversation or arguments between Socrates and Euthyphro. Socrates is in the court because a man whose name is Meletus prosecuted him about corrupting the youth. Therefore, Euthyphro is in the court to prosecute his father for the murder of the servant. It is not proven that his father is killer but Euthyphro is trying to get justice on behalf of the servant. Euthyphro thinks that a person has to pay if he/she does something impiety. Euthyphro explains that piety is something the dear to god and impiety is the thing that you do and god does not like. Euthyphro is trying to explain Socrates that he has knowledge…

    • 269 Words
    • 2 Pages
    Satisfactory Essays
  • Satisfactory Essays

    I agree with what your saying, I think Socrates understood what everything he was asking Euthyphro about the gods and what they believed in and didn't believe in. When Euthyphro told him that somethings are right by god and wrong by other gods which makes action that people were doing maybe holy/sinful. Socrates wanted to make Euthyphro stop moving fast and slow down and actually think about what he was saying because turning in his father maybe both wrong/right by the gods he was just making his self believe it was the right…

    • 94 Words
    • 1 Page
    Satisfactory Essays
  • Good Essays

    Socrates and Euthyphro unexpectedly run into each other outside of the Athens courthouse. Euthyphro went to the courthouse to prosecute his father for killing one of his servants, who was a murderer. Socrates was summoned to court to be charged with disturbing the youth. After Euthyphro stated his business at the courthouse, Socrates assumes that he must be a religious expert if he is willing to prosecute his own father on such a serious charge. Euthyphro then agrees with Socrates that he does indeed know all there is to know about what is holy. Socrates asks Euthyphro to teach him what holiness is, in hope that it will help with his trial.…

    • 516 Words
    • 3 Pages
    Good Essays
  • Better Essays

    Socrates looks to the priest to tell him what exactly is pious so that he may educate himself as to why he would be perceived as impious. Found in the Apology, another of Plato's Five Dialogues, Socrates aims to defend his principles to the five hundred and one person jury. Finally, the Crito, an account of Socrates' final discussion with his good friend Crito, Socrates is offered an opportunity to escape the prison and his death sentence. As is known, Socrates rejected the suggestion. It is in the Euthyphro and the Apology that it can be deduced that Socrates is not guilty as charged, he had done nothing wrong and he properly defended himself. However, in the Crito, it is shown that Socrates is guilty only in the interpretation and enforcement of Athens' laws through the court system and its jurors. Socrates' accusations of being blasphemous are also seen as…

    • 1659 Words
    • 7 Pages
    Better Essays
  • Good Essays

    Phi Euthyphro

    • 907 Words
    • 4 Pages

    While both men were waiting on the porch of the King Archon for their individual trials, Socrates and Euthyphro discuss the concept of holiness. The trials of these two men hold that of different merit, Socrates is being charged for corrupting the youth of Athens by sharing with them some of this ideals. While Euthyphro is going to trial not because he has done anything wrong but because he is accusing his father of murder for allowing a…

    • 907 Words
    • 4 Pages
    Good Essays
  • Good Essays

    The basis of the argument arises when Socrates asks Euthyphro to define the means of something that is holy and unholy. Euthyphro tells him that what he is currently doing, prosecuting his father for killing a man, is holy and not prosecuting him would be unholy. He proceeds to justify his actions by giving the example that Zeus the “most righteous of the gods” did the same thing to his father when he swallowed his own children so it must be the right thing to do. Socrates finds claims about the gods very difficult to accept, so when Euthyphro further defines something that is loved to be something that is…

    • 668 Words
    • 3 Pages
    Good Essays
  • Good Essays

    In an analysis of Plato’s Euthyphro, Peter Geach claims that Socrates commits the Socratic fallacy when he refuses Euthyphro’s first definition of piety. Socrates rejects the definition given because it does not give a formal definition of what piety is, but instead offers examples of things and actions that are pious. Geach believes that this is a substantial fallacy committed by Socrates, one that may prevent him from getting at the truth of the matter. I will first expand on Geach’s Socratic fallacy, as well as explain why this fallacy presents itself as a problem for Geach. Then I will examine Euthyphro to see if Geach is correct in assuming that Socrates commits the Socratic fallacy. In addition to Euthyphro, I will look at another one…

    • 583 Words
    • 3 Pages
    Good Essays
  • Good Essays

    Socrates rises the dilemma about what pious is and do the gods love something because it is pious, or is something pious because the gods love it? Socrates and Euthyphro both agree that surely the gods love the pious because it is the pious. But than Socrates argues that we are forced to reject the second option: the fact that the gods love (something) cannot explain why the pious is the pious. This is because, if both options were true, they would go in circles with the gods loving the pious because it is the pious, and the pious being the pious because the gods love it. And this in turn means, Socrates argues, that the pious is not the same as the god-beloved, because what makes the pious the pious is not what makes the god-beloved the god-beloved. After all, what makes the god-beloved the god-beloved is the fact that the gods love it, whereas what makes the pious the pious is something else. Thus Euthyphro's theory does not give us the very nature of the pious.…

    • 450 Words
    • 2 Pages
    Good Essays
  • Better Essays

    Euthyphro is a dialogue between Socrates and a traveling cleric. The two men meet at court, where the cleric, Euthyphro, claims to have a clear definition of piety. Socrates exclaims that he wishes to know the definition of piety so that he may better defend himself in his upcoming trial. Euthyphro agrees to teach Socrates, and so they begin to discuss. Early on, Socrates makes clear his desire for a universal truth, or a definition of piety that will be true in every case. Euthyphro makes several attempts to define piety in a way that satisfies Socrates.…

    • 1979 Words
    • 8 Pages
    Better Essays
  • Satisfactory Essays

    Euthyphro- Plato

    • 303 Words
    • 2 Pages

    In the writing called Euthyphro by Plato, Socrates is being charged with corrupting the youth and not believing in all of the Gods. He is being accused of this by a man named Meletus who feels as though he is guilty of not believing in the Gods of the states. Not only does he not believe in the Gods but he is accused of making up new ones. The crimes that he is being charged with go hand in hand with each other but he maintains his innocence because he feels he isn’t guilty. While on the other hand Euthyphro is prosecuting his father and indicting him for murder. Morally Euthyphro feels as though it’s the right thing to do and his family doesn’t agree only because it’s his father. In this essay I will summarize the dialogue and its message relating to piety/holiness.…

    • 303 Words
    • 2 Pages
    Satisfactory Essays
  • Good Essays

    In Plato's dialog, Euthyphro is trying to prosecute his father for murder also Socrates ask Euthyphro to define piety and impiety. Euthyphro explains that what he is doing now, prosecuting the wrongdoer, is pious, whether it be about murder or robbery whether it be your father, mother or a stranger, to not prosecute would be impious.(9e) This first definition is only an example of an instance of piety and does not actually state what makes pious things pious. Just like this definition the rest of his arguments can be countered and denied. Euthyphro is in the wrong, it is unjust to prosecute your own father. Euthyphro is arrogant and self righteous. He is unwilling to hear others opinions, because he believes he is in the right.…

    • 569 Words
    • 3 Pages
    Good Essays
  • Good Essays

    Plato's Hidden Intent

    • 812 Words
    • 4 Pages

    At first glance, one would see the "Euthyphro," by Plato, to be a near explanation of holiness from one friend to another. Opinions are introduced, positions are presented, and friendly banter ensues. Would this lead to any breakthroughs? One would think so. Perhaps, though, that was not the intent. Plato uses the dialogue between Euthyphro and Socrates to convey to his audiences that holiness cannot be defined in just one way. Instead, it is a quality that changes from person to person. He uses inductive reasoning through rhetorical questions and blatant logic; and even seems to use Euthyphro as a tool to leave the conversation open ended and show this.…

    • 812 Words
    • 4 Pages
    Good Essays
  • Satisfactory Essays

    Euthyphro is a story of a self-righteous man who’s taking his own father to court, and Socrates basically asks him how does he know if what he’s doing is the right thing. To which Euthyphro mindlessly replied, “I’m doing what is loved by the gods.” During their mid-conversation, Socrates posts a critical question: Is God then the source of what is right and what is wrong? Socrates basis for asking that question goes something like: is something is good because god commands it or does god commands something because it’s good.…

    • 458 Words
    • 2 Pages
    Satisfactory Essays
  • Powerful Essays

    Euthyphro Vs Socrates

    • 1298 Words
    • 6 Pages

    Who is Euthyphro and what was the nature of the discussion he had with Socrates? And, what is the Divine Command Theory?…

    • 1298 Words
    • 6 Pages
    Powerful Essays
  • Good Essays

    This text begins with Thrasymachus eagerly and angrily, jumping into the conversation between Socrates and others on the topic of justice. Thrasymachus immediately attacks Socrates verbally on his manner of teaching others. Stating that Socrates is merely babbling nonsense, Thrasymachus believes that if Socrates actually knows what justice is, he should simply state it and not go through repetitive questioning and counter exampling.…

    • 566 Words
    • 3 Pages
    Good Essays