For this discussion, please review Solomon Asch’s (1958) study of conformity. The results of this study, demonstrate how many of the individual participants conformed to the group despite the fact that the group was clearly wrong, and the individuals were clearly right. In addition, watch the video on the ABC New Primetime: Milgram Experiment Update video. Through this experiment we observe how perceptions of authority directly influence obedience. For example, even when the action ordered by the authority figure caused physical harm, the participants were still obedient. What are some explanations for this type of behavior? Can you think of an example of when you disregarded your own desires or values for the sake of obedience or conformity?…
Critics have said that Fight Club ‘rages against the hypocrisy of society’ showing ‘a take on changes in masculinity’. The film uses cinematic means which produce a fantasy which explores the idea of masculinity and goes against a society where real men are defined by the materials they own.…
He starts learning about the way Tyler thinks and begins to admire him for how much “truth” and “Wisdom” he spouts out. Without Tyler then there wouldn’t be a fight club and without fight club then the Narrator wouldn’t have stated:…
He flies around the country to write accident reports on his company’s cars. One particular flight, he meets soap salesman, Tyler Durden. As Jack arrives back to his apartment, he finds that it has been blown up. He pulls out Tyler’s business card that he gave him earlier and calls him up. They meet at a bar and Jack ends up going home with Tyler to stay at his place. However, before they leave the bar, Tyler says he needs one favor from Jack, which is to hit him as hard as he could. After one punch, the two engage in a sloppy fight. Fighting becomes a very important piece in Jack’s life. With continued fighting, Jack attends work with bruises and blood stains. His boss is not happy. The bar at which Jack and Tyler first fought begins to be a meeting point for a group of men that Tyler and Jack have attracted through fighting. This proves that they are not alone in how they feel. The two talk to the bartender and end up using the basement of the bar for their new “Fight Club”. There is only one rule of fight club: “You shall not speak of Fight Club”.…
Many theories and questions are raised from the problem of obedience to authority. What can make another person be obedient to another? Why do some people obey others when they know what they’re doing is wrong? This is a problem for the human population and it demands reasoning, explanation, and examination. We must reflect on what many experts have examined in the field, and draw some conclusions. There are many experts that have studied obedience to authority, and why people still obey even though it may be wrong. In the military following orders is the key to your survival. Even if your superior officers tell you to kill someone or shoot someone it may…
Fight Club “Its only after we’ve lost everything are we free to do anything”, Tyler Durden as (Brad Pitt) states, among many other lines of contemplation. In Fight Club, a nameless narrator, a typical “everyman,” played as (Edward Norton) is trapped in the world of large corporations, condominium living, and all the money he needs to spend on all the useless stuff he doesn’t need. As Tyler Durden says “The things you own end up owning you.” Fight Club is an edgy film that takes on such topics as consumerism, the feminization of society, manipulation, cultism, Marxist ideology, social norms, dominant culture, and the psychiatric approach of the human id, ego, and super ego. “It is a film that surrealistically describes the status of the American…
In this chapter on the research of obedience, studying the psychological actions and reactions, the implications brought forth are the surprising effects of simple commands and the subliminal influence. The articles “The Perils of Obedience”, by Stanley Milgram, and “Opinions and Social Pressure”, by Solomon E. Asch, both exhibit the traits of simple, ordinary test subjects following orders and actions by someone who is illustrated to have power or the general consensus but realistically do not.…
Despite the power of conformity it is clear also that it still requires an individual to choose to follow and is not an automatic response. The obedience experiment by Milgram showed that blindly following orders will lead to a lessened sense of responsibility to the action, but underlying is that “participants could be led to construe [their actions] as service in the cause of goodness.” This leaves a large margin for error and many ways of justifying acts of evil. So how does one determine true righteousness in their actions and when conforming is for the better? It is an area that Reicher deems worthy of deeper insight and has furthered to explore with his understanding of collective…
This passage provides a very powerful moment in which the narrator is informed of the extent of Tyler's power and control. During this scene, Tyler stresses the importance of "honor" while he threatens to castrate the police commissioner. Although the idea of this passage is very aggressive, the tone of the passage is calm and respectful, as Tyler uses diction such as "esteemed honor" and "your honor". While using blackmail as a method of insurance, he reminds the commissioner that honor is more important than the individual. This value reappears throughout Fight Club as well. We see space monkeys sacrificing themselves for homework assignments and chaotic operations; they are taught to put Fight Club and Project Mayhem before themselves. The passage also…
The conflict between conformity and rebellion has always been a struggle in our society. Fight Club is a movie that depicts just that. The movie portrays the polarity between traditionalism and an anti-social revolt. It is the story of man who is subconsciously fed up with the materialism and monotony of everyday life and thereafter creates a new persona inside his mind to contrast and counteract his repetitive lifestyle.…
This is shown when Sodapop chants a saying when leaving the house for the rumble. “ I am a Greaser. I am a JD and a hood. I blacken the name of our fair city. I beat up people. I rob gas stations. I am a menace to society. Man, do I have fun!” (Hinton 136) This chant begins a game in which Darry and Two-Bit pretend to be Socs. This lets them get their excitement out for the rumble, but also shows how aware they are of what society thinks of them. Although not all stereotypes placed on them are true, they take pride in knowing that they are different and love themselves for who they really are. When Ponyboy and Johnny are in the church, Johnny realizes that there is more to being a Greaser than hair grease and rumbles. He realizes that social classes do not define a person, but a person’s actions define a person. In the article, Inside Quad-City high school cliques, many researchers state the different reasons why kids need to express themselves. Mark Vincent, a social psychologist at Augustana College in Rock Island, affirms “Vincent explains humans do tend to believe that members of other groups are all the same. At the same time, they recognize the distinct differences among the people in their own group, physically, mentally and emotionally, he adds.” In short, Vincent is explaining that even though humans are in groups for the same reason, they have different personalities throughout.…
Obedience shines a light on the negative aspects of humanity, whereas disobedience shines a light on the positive. It has been revealed how people will deny their own senses in order to remain indifferent from the majority (Asch). It was also exposed that some people are okay with possibly killing another human being as long as the victim is not considered their responsibility (Milgram). Both of these examples were a response of the individuals who chose to conform and obey rather than know the difference of what is morally right and wrong. Yet in the midst of it all areas of disobedience allows for different groups of people to come together and fight to evoke incredible change. However, disobedience is much more expensive than obedience. People willing to disobey must first find factors that will lead them to want to disobey and then pay the consequences after. On the other hand, suffering the consequences is a small price to pay compared to living with years of injustice. The factors that were discovered to aid in a person’s willingness to disobey, deception, education, and responsibility, all stimulate a certain degree of reflection. In contrast, members subject to obedience follow blindly with no reflection on the authority’s demands. This evidence directly relates to the findings by both Asch and Milgram. In their cases, the subjects were stripped of their individuality, which resulted in their conformity.…
In conclusion, the Milgram’s study on obedience clearly showed that human were more obedient than we would image. This experiment is a wake-up call for me, for it helps me to review my own value systems and makes me aware of the destructiveness of obedience. Furthermore, the study has somehow explained how easily normal people could be influenced into supporting and participating in atrocities such as the Nazi Holocaust, the Khmer Rouge’s genocide, and the practices of ISIS on a mass scale. Any ordinary people can become an evil if obedience allows them to avoid making their own decisions as well as taking responsibility for their actions. On one hand, obedience is good when people obey the law and adhere to moral codes. It is important to…
conformation is extremely common. Also, in some cases people may conform to much in a potentially dangerous situation, and could hurt themselves or someone else. Take the Jim Jones Cult for…
Karl Marx, the founder of Marxism, believed that in an industrialized society the working class would revolt and take over the ruling class, which would in effect create a classless society, taking everyone back to zero. Marx’s concepts are simple: in order to grasp the true meaning of happiness, people must separate themselves from their materialistic tendencies as well as each in order to refocus on themselves as individuals, much as Tyler Durden displays in the movie Fight Club. Although critically acclaimed by The New York Times to be a “sardonic testosterone-fueled science fiction” (New York Times 1999), the film Fight Club, actually takes it root in many of Karl Marx’s beliefs. Despite the films underlying indications of Tyler Durden’s Marxist ideas, many viewers don’t pick up on the similarities and leave them to go unnoticed. Viewers of the film need to understand that Marxism is the leading internal influence in film Fight Club and that Tyler Durden, is in fact, a Marxist.…