In reading Plato’s Theaetetus, Socrates stresses throughout that he is like a midwife, meaning he helps his associates to gain knowledge through asking questions. He also claims, however, that he himself possesses no knowledge. As a result, he does not teach, but remains adamant in his claims that he is very important in the associates’ learning or relearning.…
The Meno Paradox starts around page 79, in these pages Meno and Socrates argue about weather knowledge is learnable or merely a recollection. Lets start by reading the “Meno Paradox”. Meno says, “How will you look for it, Socrates, when you don’t know what it is? How will you aim to search for something you do not know at all? If you should meet with it, how will you know what to look for?”(80d) My interpretation of the text is this, if you know the answer to a question you cannot gain knowledge by asking it. But if you do not know the answer to the question, you will not differentiate the correct answer when given. How can I ever truly know if something is true or false? If I could just keep going to the source of the previous answer and question weather that source is true or false? One might respond by…
Doesn’t the same hold for all the other things? Don’t you call shapes and colours admirable on the account of either some pleasure or benefit or both?…
This quote is significant because it exemplifies the way Socrates uses HIS method. Socrates uses metaphors in order to humbly enlighten his audience. At times Socrates structure of explanation is perceived to be complex and or difficult to interpret. To simplify what he is attempting to get across usually takes a thorough examination. Socrates is from ancient times and his methodology still suits fit to modern day. Analyzing the context of his circumstances before death alone goes to show the depth of understanding one needs to comprehend his ideology and beliefs. This quote also provides us with the notion of not being selfish and to avoid pretentious. When one thinks about death or the chance of dying when they’re in a predicament because…
After all this, Socrates goes on to the story about a man returning from the afterlife and describing it. At the end of the story, he says that because he and his companions have established that the soul is immortal, and because this story speaks about the immortality of the soul, it is even more important for people to be just and seek good and true knowledge in their life. This, in turn, will bring them much happiness in both this life and the…
In the Meno, Socrates tries to walk Meno through the discovery of if virtue can be taught. Along the way they come across the theory that if virtue can be taught then it is knowledge. If knowledge then it can be taught but the Geometric argument was brought up where a person can have the capacity to learn based on their previous life and their soul conjuring up prior knowledge to understand the topic. Socrates called upon a slave, a person who has no formal education and walked him through a geometry problem. This problem was meant to illustrate that a person’s knowledge is not based on what this person has learned in their lifetime but their capacity and ability to understand is based on what their soul has learned in previous lifetimes. Socrates uses this example show his thesis is true but what about different scenarios that aren’t math based and through different problems you can see that Socrates theory is half correct and that there are several implications that prove that souls don’t know it all.…
The Meno is the literary work done by Socrates the main theme in this dialogue/story is what is virtue. The dialogue between Meno and Socrates gives insight and question on what it is. It begins with Meno telling Socrates that he has been under the spell of Socrates and that he did not know what virtue was. This is what started the whole conversation between the boy, Meno, and Socrates. First off Socrates asks Meno what virtue is Meno listed examples about virtue but he did not the exact definition. Instead Socrates uses an analogy with the priestess and priests of who believe that people have an immortal soul. He also then uses the torpedo fish, which is a metaphor for when people are “paralyzed” by for being confused and having inconsistent.…
Socrates has “numbed” Meno’s mind and essentially made him feel stupid. “In response to Meno, Socrates says he is willing to accept the torpedo-fish simile so long as it is true that the torpedo fish numbs not only other fish but also itself. “I myself do not have the answer when I perplex others,” he…
Meno has progressed because he has come to some new level of understanding just by admitting he doesn’t know the answers to virtue and being willing to seek out those answers by asking them of someone who does know the answers, Socrates. Socrates doesn’t see this as enough. He considers Meno to be like the slave boy, someone who has opinions that are a compilation of other peoples’ ideas, Gorgias and Socrates, but have yet to be anything of value because these ideas aren’t his own. It is not enough to just want to know the answers if Meno isn’t willing to investigate on his own. Just as the slave boy would become an expert at geometry “if he were repeatedly asked these same questions in various ways” because he will have practiced many different variations of the same concept and will gain true understanding, Meno will only come to claim true understanding by taking the ideas of Gorgias and Socrates and making them his own by practicing his own…
When Socrates questioned the poets, the poets believed that they had the ability to speak brilliantly about various issues. However, Socrates revealed that although they each wrote amazing works of art, their intelligence did not come from wisdom, but instead, came from an impulse which wasn’t associated with their genius. As Socrates interrogated the craftsmen, he seemed to find men who genuinely contained much wisdom in their craft, but the men thought that their abilities in a certain field granted them to speak officially in other fields that they were associated with, although they truly knew nothing. Each case shows that Socrates confirmed that he would prefer to be as he is, stating that he truly knows nothing, rather than to be filled with a false impression of his own wisdom. Socrates states, “So I asked myself on behalf of the oracle whether I would prefer to be as I am, being in no way wise in their wisdom or ignorant in their ignorance, or to have both things that they have. I answered myself and the oracle that it profits me to be just as I am”…
What exacty is virtue and how does one describe it? In the dialog Meno, two men, Meno and Socrates, attempt to define virtue. The dialog begins with Meno asking Socrates if virtue can be taught. Personally, I do not imagine that virtue can be taught. Meno does not exactly know what virtue is but guesses that it is to possess power and to retain good things. Socrates argues that learning is impossible because a soul has already learned everything from passed lives and that learning is simply recollection from those past lives. The purpose of this paper is to discuss Meno’s paradox and to determine how Socrates resolves it.…
Plato, in his book Meno, defines whether or not virtue can be taught. He does so by presenting two different characters; Meno is just a mere prop that Plato utilizes so that he could convey his real messages through Socrates. The book is written in the dialectic style and begins with Meno’s question if virtue is teachable. Socrates responds to Meno’s question by saying that in order to answer that question, one must first know whether virtue can be defined or not. Meno attempts three times to define virtue however, each time Socrates refutes his definition with a counterargument. By the end of his third attempt, Meno calls Socrates a “torpedo fish” because he feels as if all the knowledge that he had acquired from Gorgias was replaced by questions and uncertainty. In the aforementioned passage, in the doxical context, Socrates admits he has this effect on others because he himself doesn’t know . On the other hand, in the ethological context, Socrates is mocking the teachings of Gorgias and the Sophists. Moreover, in a broader perspective, through Socrates, Plato criticizes all who pretend like they have acquired all the knowledge attainable in this world.…
The discussion of true belief and knowledge in the Meno develops in the analogy of the traveling men; one who knows the correct path to Larissa and the other who has a true belief of the correct path to Larissa (Meno 97a-c). Socrates tells Meno that if both men led to the same result, then true belief is no more useful than knowledge and both beneficial (Meno 97c). This comparison changes in book five of the Republic when Socrates says an ideal state must have a philosopher-king as a ruler (Republic 473d-e).…
Socrates states that the human soul is immortal and it is reborn again, but it’s never destroyed. Socrates also points out that the soul has learned everything that is to know. Therefore, when we “learn” about something, it is merely just a “recollecting” what our soul’s have learned in the past. This idea is essentially the basis of the argument between Socrates and Meno. Socrates tries to prove this to Meno by calling over one of Meno’s servant and confirms that the boy has no knowledge of mathematics. At first, the boy seemed to have no knowledge about Socrates problem. But, through step-by-step questions, the boy was able to provide a correct answer to Socrates problem. Therefore, Socrates states that, since he had no knowledge of geometry in his life, he must have already known it and he was able to…
The learning paradox in the Meno describes the problem that a person cannot inquire about what they know or don’t know, because if they know they do not need to ask and if they do not know then they do not know what to ask for. For example, if you are trying to discover what a person looks like, how can you know you’ve found them if you don’t already know what they look like? As I will discuss later on, there are very few contexts in which the learning paradox is valid, this being one of them. The learning paradox was used by Socrates to try and prove innatism, that everything is inside us and has to be brought out. The idea of innatism and learning as recollection all tie together into the main theme…